Apple just announced the brand new Mac Studio desktop alongside the M1 Ultra Chip and a brand new display! Today we're going to breakdown the new computer and compare it to the standard M1 Mac mini.
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with the introduction of Mac Studio, Apple will enable me to further reduce my desk computing footprint; No More Towers
iMac…
@Online Drum Studio iMac is a dumb decision for someone who already has a monitor, plus the studio is worlds more powerful
@SGEGGbub Mac mini…
Put your tower under the desk ?
yeah i’m definitely getting the studio. this would be great for music production and adobe programs as well can wait to get it
I think the studio is overkill for music production. Can you even overload the mac mini m1 with your audio projects? How many tracks and plugins would it take to choke that? 800 tracks?
well, i have not see yet a review with huge orchestral libraries loaded on m1 mini… that required a ton of Ram and i doubt m1 mini with its little Ram would be sufficient. For an audio production perhaps, but for other music production related task it may be doubtful.
@Warren Postma if only there was Mac Mini with M1 Pro…
@Kardum Odalv not everybody needs huge orchestral libraries. You can even get pretty far with 8GB doing music production. The M1 is a good choice for most people doing any kind of music production / audio work, you can get loads of heavy plugins without it breaking a sweat. If you don’t know why you’d specifically needs the studio (like scoring with several softwares open at the same time that used to require several computers) then don’t get the studio.
@Warren Postma counting tracks doesn’t mean anything when it comes to performance on audio; it completely depend on what you do with those tracks. also single core performance is a pretty important metric here and it’s exactly the same on all M1 versions. But yes you can load a buttload of CPU-intensive plug-ins on the M1 with decent latency before hitting a performance issue. and in the audio world you’r never using all the CPU available; you have buffer issues before; so you can still adjust your buffer if you have troubles. and having a low buffer is not always critical
The M1 Mac Mini is not “a problem” as you described. I understand the Mac Studio should be and will be better. But I edit videos and photos all the time. And the M1 Mac Mini STILL has more than enough power to do anything MOST people will ever need.
STUDIO is the key here. If your a small studio who might need more, this is a great option! Different needs. Different machine. Finally we have another option that won’t cost $40,000 dollars.
@- hard for me to give advice on a machine that I’ve never seen. I went ahead and ordered the base model Studio because it definitely SEEMS like a decent spec for $1999. I figured that I can always return it to Apple if I don’t like it. Mine doesn’t ship until the end of March, so we should have a lot more info before the end of the month since the first orders deliver on 3/18/22.
@- Personally, I would wait a bit to see. The M1 works with Resolve quite well if you do occasional editing (I haven’t done much 4K with it though). That said, any other M1 chip is drastically better for editing because of the media engine. If the rumours are true and they end up releasing a mini later this year with the M1 pro, that would have a drastic increase in performance because of the optimization. You will also know some of the initial takes and results of the studio by then.
it depends on your workload however. If the M1 Max processor makes sense for what you do, than the studio will be where you have to look. Just wait a bit to see any kinks worked out.
yeah people should consider their exact needs and stop throwing money at things because they’re new and shiny. The basic M1 still outperforms a lot of intel machines that were released a few months ago. At this point the studio is a niche machine and people who buy it should know exactly why they do it; and have considered the benefit of just getting the M1 (not to mention waiting for a probable mac mini M1 pro that would do most of what the base studio does). same goes for the laptops, the air is an excellent choice for most people; including “pros”.
@Bad Robot if you come from anything intel then you should first consider the M1; the difference is significant. look at benchmarks and such; and see if you still absolutely need the studio.
@val dir Perfectly said. It was only 6-12 months ago that YouTube ‘media creators were singing the praises of the M1, including the Mac Mini, and were perfectly happy editing 4k video footage in FCP. Unless you’re doing high end video production with 6k/8k video, a Mac Studio is likely overkill. It’s a very powerful desktop machine but definitely not ’needed’ by most consumers.
The M1 Mac Mini is still an awesome computer. Just wished it would have got a spec bump but I can understand that Apple didn’t want to steal the studio’s thunder.
Agreed, I really hope the Mac mini “Pro” that’s supposed to replace the current highest end Mac Mini Intel makes this happen. I feel like the Mac Studio’s spec and price is a serious jump up that I don’t necessarily need. It would be great to get a 10 core or better yet 12 core M1 Mac mini. Just a slight bump up. And the option to add 32GB ram. This is all I want and need.
If the Mini 2022 will have a 32gb version that should be enough.
Needs an M1 Pro version of the Mac Mini. Likewise for the iMac and a secondary monitor option in the same style
The only thing missing on the Mac Mini M1 is an extra direct display port. A Belkin hub does the job of course, but this is really the only argument against the M1. It’s absurdly blistering fast, silent and stable.
I don’t get what they talk about “browsing and everyday tasks”. I’ve been using a 4gb 2010 MBA to do my 1 hour docu edits and all. Getting a base model m1 MBA is utterly spoiling me for pro work.
VERY happy with this new machine, it’s exactly what I have been waiting for after the utter failure of the M1 Mac Mini for multiple monitor support. Order placed right after the keynote 🙂
same 24 or 32 gpu cores is the question now?
@T-Swan For what we will be using it for (installation video project) I just ordered the base model. If it was for home I’d get the 32 core 🙂 But I already have an M1Max 14 inch MBPro…
What is the multi monitor display problem? I thought it could run 2 X 4k monitors
Miles! Thanks for the rundown. I pretty much agree with you on every point. Why no space grey…. Yes, I was wondering that myself.
That Mac Studio Ultra is going to be a real fire-breather. Like you said, it checks so many boxes. Spec’d right, this machine can easily last you 5 years. You shouldn’t be desperate for an upgrade in 5 years. But that’s if you spec it for longevity. Am I wrong to be a bit pissy about the $800 upgrade from 64GB to 128GB? But yeah, I’ll probably get the Ultra w/128GB. When a good enough sale arrives!
Looking forward to your testing!
I bet the space grey will be reserved for the Mac Pro later this year.
The Ultra Instinct Mac Studio looks dope, along with the new Pro Display
For your consideration the M1 Ultra chip is housed in a better thermal device. For me that opens up the possibilities the performance numbers Apple presented may be close to spot on. They could slightly increase the clock speed and/or run in high performance mode by default when not confined to a laptop case thermal envelope. This doesn’t entirely eliminate thermal throttling. The attention to ventilation and the possibility that the fans are larger and higher performance than the laptop fans seems to me very likely. The trash can Mac Pro should have tons of lessons learned and airflow modeling is very likely more accurate. What do you think?
Am getting the base model Studio I think, seems good enough for my needs.
I have ordered my Studio. The ports had a lot to do with my choice. Plus the power. I came hoping for a new upgraded mini but I am happy this came out. This will help in so many ways going forward. Nice share and breakdown.
do you know if there is a space grey wrap skin for the mac studio? i need the space grey colour to match my set up
@Don Ragnar not at this point that I am aware of, but my guess is skins will be coming quickly.
Thanks Miles, I always enjoy your valuable point of view when it comes to giving a great overview of the Mac.
A spec bump on the current Mac Mini would be very welcomed along with addressing the I/O and Bluetooth.
I am regularly editing 4K videos with dozens of layers on my 1TB 16GB MacMini M1 without it skipping a beat, so as soon as you said ‘it is only good enough for web browsing’ at 3:55 I switched off and probably won’t bother coming back … these are the same M1s that people were showing doing 8K video editing on a couple of years ago – sadly reviews like this just feed into the Apple machine. My 2009 5:1 MacPro I still use for 3D rendering and my 2013 late MacBook Pro I use for everything too especially for music production and Adobe work, as well as 4k if I am on the road … I do wish people would just stop upgrading and listening to reviewers who are fueling the obsolescence machine …
@Martin Griffiths yes I replaced my big MacPro with the 2020 Mini M1 and not looked back
@Alex Addonizio now that you have had it for a month, what do you think?
@ricelife it’s definitely an absolute treat to use and edit with. It’s small enough that I can fit it on my desk and it’s powerful enough that I can edit a sequence in a Premiere/After Effects 4k timeline while also rendering a blender project at the same time with little to no stuttering. The base model is definitely worth the price if you are a creative
I’ve been debating which to buy, and I know the mini has much more power than I will ever need, but my big issue is the I/O and RAM. Yes, the on-board RAM is MUCH more efficient than previous models, but I intend to keep this next computer for at least 10 years so I don’t want to ever outgrow it. Still, it’s the I/O that really gets me. I’m not big on using a hub, which I’d spend more money on anyway. Am I overthinking this? Is a hub just as reliable as built-in I/O?
That was funny switching it off
The intel mac mini is almost as expensive as the mac studio. Considering the extra ports on the studio it seems to be a no brainer to choose it over the current high end mac mini.
This is the machine I’ve been waiting for. I’ve already been to apple and picked out my Ultra. 10-12 weeks delivery!
It make the Mac mini looks like a fantastic machine, compact, efficient, affordable and powerful.
Ordered the Max Studio, bumped the processor to 32 core and a 1TB hd, left the unified memory at 32 because this would have pushed delivery out to the end of July.
The best for me would be a compact Mac mini M2 with only 4 Thunderbolt 4 ports as I do not need other old ports like HDMI or Ethernet. The config I’d take would be 16GB RAM and 2 TB SSD, the latest Wifi 6E and BT 5.3.
The Mac Studio are nuts! Way more desktop than almost everybody needs…but still very impressive. But I just don’t need more than my 16g Mini M1.
If the mini had more ports it would probably be my next computer. But by the time I up the RAM to 16gb and buy a GOOD dock/hub to supply the needed ports I’m not that far away from the cost of a studio AND I get an extra 16gb of RAM.