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Brad Barreau No, movie watching and such on 4K with a NVIDA PCI card you can buy almost anywhere!
What about cuda acceleration in premiere pro?does it work?
yes.
@Picasso That’s not true (or completely correct) first would not be a NVIDIA problem anyway but an Adobe one, second it’s not true that every GPU perform the same, it just depend and Premiere rendering implementation is highly CPU dependant, take a look at this more professional review https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-NVIDIA-Quadro-Pascal-Performance-938/
Sadly youtubers aren’t the best hardware/software analyst out there, even Linus (which is one of the better and most famous) on the video you linked make the wrong assumption that Maxwell is slower at compute compared to Kepler, here I can assure it’s plain wrong, when NVIDIA presented Maxwell I had this fear too but it’s not the case, when we where able to test it I was shocked by how much effective was Maxwell at general compute.
Stef3m.. I stick more to the reality than dream about usd7000 card thats why I said (Nvidia never was that generous to their ”’consumers”).. consumer cards are different but still Im not saying GT 210 would perform as 1080 ti nor Kepler vs Maxwell, but in the link I posted there are about the same range of cards from AMD and Nvidia. And No! the comparison is very useful for all people who get GTX gaming cards and think that CUDA will help them in Premiere more than OpenCL of AMD which is not true.
Remember, this comparison is for AMD vs Nvidia consumer cards in Premiere, no Pro cards and Linus video is very accurate.
The point is that there is almost no performance difference between Quadro and GeForce graphics cards, I’m not arguing AMD cards have good performance but if all cards looks equals there is a problem with the benchmark, like testing different GPUs in Fortnite at 1080p and framerate capped at 60fps, you wont notice many difference. At Puget System they test the most demanding situations (8K 60fps, VR, …) and some difference show up https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-11GB-Performance-912/
Don’t get me wrong, Linus is a good guy but benchmarking and hw analysis are complex stuff and sometimes he use the wrong tool, like its old high speed camera which was too slow for the purpose and become a source of misleading results or in the case I mentioned above were he said that Maxwell was slower than Kepler because it wasn’t designed for compute which is not true at all.
I’ve just bought an Aktio Node Thunderbolt 3 and had a GTX680 lying around.
I really wanted to use it with my ageing 2012 MBP 15″ 2.3Ghz 4core i7.
My model has the shitty GT650M with only 512mb of RAM so Premiere stopped supporting it years ago.
Can confirm after using Jeroen Van Keulen’s Alln1 package and specifically the set-eGPU.sh (included with it, sets application level eGPU preference) I’m able to have the GTX680 recognised in Premiere.
CUDA is a little iffy doesn’t seem 100% smooth, oddly OpenCL is perfect.
I will add that because the 2012 MBP is only 10Gbps Thunderbolt, I think it can’t properly do 4K footage in full quality.
It will render it sufficiently and play at 1/2 quality but any kind of high quality (or rendered timeline footage) stutters in all renderers except software.
However, if 1080p timeline is used, (with 4K footage) things flow along nicely and rendering is quick.
Games are recognised once set to use the eGPU with the script.
Unfortunately people like myself, who are too lazy and stupid to figure this out, will have to wait and hope for official support.
It may never come, so I wouldn’t hold your breath.
it’s not even that complicated
Do machine learning libraries recognise and use the eGPU?
They should, the systems just recognise it as a normal GPU
thanks
Just subscribed to you because I think about my MBP13″ 2k17 upgrade and you provided me with all decent information before buying anything 🙂 Just a simple question. Is it worth now to get RX580 bundle officialy supported or wait for nVidia official support and get 1070 in bundle? I wanted mostly to run 3 screen development platform (I am mobile developer), and maybe run some games like CS:GO, World of Tanks. Thanks in advance.
Stef3m ironic lmao
Also that benchmark was done in opengl which is known to work well with nvidia cards and poorly with amd ones.
In computational workloads a 580 is around a 1070.
In gaming in most games now 580 is slightly better than a 1060 6gb (1280cuda cores (or somewhere around that) (as opposed to the 3gb version which also has less cudas but it isn’t specified specifically in the name))
Amd cards of the gcn principal architecture age better – fine wine.
Check out the channel “AdoredTV”.
For gaming however with these light games even prolly a 1050 will do. However if in the future u might imagine urself gaming more etc imho best value at msrp is 1)580 2) 1070/1060 (depending how high of a setting/fps u want at what games and resolutions etc…)
Mikoziq.
Mikoziq whether it’s worth would depend on the price cuz atm the gpu market is a mess. Also whether u r cool with setting stuff up etc urself and what not.
@Mikoziq GPU prices are cooling down and eGPU prices looks quite high so if you have some skills it may be worth to DIY
@Micheal You are on a Mac there isn’t other choice than OGL for those benchmark, the 580 is close to a 1070 just on paper, on many compute workload an RX480 is even slower than a GTX 1060 but as I said it depends, GPUs are complex beast.
Fine wine was just a successful marketing catch, GPU doesn’t get better with time like wine (sometimes) does, you are just getting performance you were neglected in the first place.
I don’t need to check out “AdoredTV”, I know it but honestly I don’t hold it in much considerations, he likes to seek sensationalism and to entertain more then inform and scientifically analyse, it happens that he stumble on something but then superficially analyse it and jump to conclusions. I have also some doubt on his ethics since when he thought he wasn’t receiving a sample of Ryzen 2 for review he complained saying “after all I’ve done for them”… that’s not a sentence I like to read from a supposed independent reviewer.
your title sounds like this unofficial support just dropped, however, this script came out long long long time ago…
Songkun Ji true, thought the same buddy …
Dose anybody know if this would work with MacBook Air Mid 2011?
no because of lacking thunderbolt.
no. those macs don’t support new Mac OS
Nick my MacBook Air mid 2011 has macos high sierra as it is 2009 or later. And it has a thunderbolt port as the mid 2011 one dose have and it’s backwards compatible with min display for a display at 2560×1600. Look it up.
Nick my MacBook Air mid 2011 has macos high sierra as it is 2009 or later. And it has a thunderbolt port as the mid 2011 one dose have and it’s backwards compatible with min display for a display at 2560×1600. Look it up. soundfun
Supercharged Nick my MacBook Air mid 2011 has macos high sierra as it is 2009 or later. And it has a thunderbolt port as the mid 2011 one dose have and it’s backwards compatible with min display for a display at 2560×1600. Look it up.
Why not just use a computer laptop is spose to be portable not to use a pc graphics card
Couldn’t deal with the lack of official Nvidia support anymore, switched from a GTX1080 to a Vega56.
Good decision.
Jared Busch I tried a XFX Vega 64 but, didn’t work in Boot Camp for gaming. I did the same as you, left GTX 1080 for a Sapphire Vega 56.
Would love to watch a video about that switch and what performance difference you’re getting 🙂
Hi, do you know why when I connect egpu via Mini pcie and start the laptop then have for the whole time black screen? If i schould buy Expresscard for my adapter? Thanks for the help 😉
No game test? At all?
Finally!!!
This is super exciting! My fingers are crossed for official Nvidia support on macOS soon. That would be awesome! My only question is does mileage very based on the Mac configuration you have? Does an eGPU perform differently when connected to a 13in MacBook Pro compared to a 15in MacBook Pro? Does the processor effect the GPU since it’s external? Does the number of bands per Thunderbolt 3 port effect eGPU performance?
Yes, i care ! Also: i don’t know about the beef that Apple has with NVIDIA but the fact that Apple’s customers are caught in the crossfire is a shame. I have been using Macs for over 20 years and they have been allergic to good graphics from the beginning. Gamers are treated like stinking, rotting filth. And we’ll probably never know why. Sad.
What great news!! Now maybe we can use tensorflow in the future, because they had stopped supporting Macs in the newest version because Macs use AMD graphics cards and we need CUDA. Why won’t MacBooks switch to using Nvidea!! They are hindering us
You still can use the latest tensorflow with GPU support on macOS. You just need to build it from source instead of using pip to install.
I don’t get why people are so hyped about connecting an eGPU on macOS. Like it’s cool but macOS legit sucks for gaming imo.. I’d be much more hyped about connecting eGPU’s to Windows on Bootcamp. Anyone know how that goes??
Christian I tried a XFX Vega 64 and had issues in Bootcamp. But, my Sapphire Vega 56 is kicking strong no matter what game I throw at it.
Christian maybe a egpu for video editing sherlock. not everybody cares for gaming.
Isn’t Final Cut Pro on the newer MBP’s meant to be speedy af WITHOUT an eGPU??? I swear MKBHD says that..
bigsalebigsalebigsale depending what MBP you have, if 15 inch, absolutely yes, FCP will run smooth, but not for 13 inch, I already try in my MBP 2017 13, need to transcode all video to make run smooth in Playback. I’m exciting wait for official egpu next month from Apple.
As a 3d animator, not having Nvidia was almost a dealbreaker for me. I love working on the Mac, but the 3d industry in embracing GPU accretion via CUDA, so not having Nvidia Hardware is a HUGE problem. Have 10 PCs for 3d work, and I only use my MacPro (trashcan addition) for editing and aftereffects…YET its my most expensive system. Apple is only using AMD GPUS because AMD gives them a SWEET deal. So Apple is limiting OUR capability, for APPPLE’S financial gain. If Apple does not put Nvidia on par with AMD GPUs then they WILL LOOSE the ‘high-end creative’ market.
Ryan Duff agreed I’m starting to feel hopeless and getting to the point of saying F U to Mac for good but good lord I can’t stand Windows sigh..
Is it possible to run, let say, Redshift with an eGpu? I am considering buying it but don’t want to buy Windows…
Yes. I have done it. I was Running a Bizon box with a Nvidia 980ti. Unfortunately 10.13 broke the way the Bizon box was using to connect to the MacOS. the GOOD NEWS is that i hear that the Sonnet EGPU DOES bring back Nvidia compatibility but you need a scritp (forgot where i saw it) that does the tricky driver installation an ACTIVATION for you.
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Bruch up on you punctuation, Buds.
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Nvidia support would be awesome in Mac for Adobe and CUDA support. Not much for info out there, have you done any benchmarks in Pr Pro, Ae, Ps, etc?
For me it doesn’t really matter until Apple starts supporting it with Final Cut Pro